Talk of the decline of the West repeatedly haunts the media. Its author, Oswald Spengler, on the other hand, seems to be forgotten. Rightly so? On the occasion of the 75th anniversary of his death on May 8, Goethe.de spoke with cultural scientist Johann Pall Arnason.J.P. Arnason is from Iceland and teaches at La Trobe University in Australia. In the spring of 2010 he was at the University of Göttingen to pursue a research project on Oswald Spengler.
Mr Arnason, Spengler’s title “The Decline of the West (Untergang des Abendlandes)” is still proverbial in German, though hardly anyone actually reads the book any more. How do you explain Spengler’s strong indirect influence?
On the one hand, Spengler is regarded as dealt with – certainly for good reasons. On the other hand, we can’t get rid of him. There will always be moods of crisis and decline in which we remember the title of his famous book. In recent years Spengler has even been newly translated, most recently into Czech for the first time. In post-communist states it is probably the disappointment with the capitalist path taken since 1990 that has made his scepticism about civilisation seem relevant again.
Spengler should’t be left to the extreme Right
Is such a Spengler renaissance dangerous because it supplies thinkers from the extreme Right with key ideas?
That doesn’t really play a part in the scholarly discussion. We shouldn’t eschew Spengler because he was close to the right-wing of the political spectrum.
What was Spengler’s political position?
His political position was quite complex. He didn’t write The Decline of the West as a way of coping with the German defeat in the First World War, as is often assumed abroad. He already had the idea for the book before the war, and indeed he expected a German victory. Then in the 1920s he was in fact a kind of political activist for the radical Right.
Spengler was part of the so-called “Conservative Revolution” – which wasn’t, by the way, a single movement. In the 1932 presidential election he voted for Adolph Hitler, although he didn’t like him. But Spengler wasn’t a pioneer of the Third Reich. After Hitler took power in 1933, Spengler even showed political courage by criticising him in his book The Hour of Decision. After 1934 he went into inner emigration. In his unpublished notes from these years he wrote that Germany was now governed by murderers and compared Hitler to a monkey that had been set down to play a piano.
Family resemblances
And he wasn’t read and discussed only by the Conservative Revolution?
Not at all. There are surprising connections in Spengler’s reception. In the 1930s the eminent Finnish philosopher Georg Henrik von Wright and Ludwig Wittgenstein had discussions about him. Wittgenstein’s later use of “forms of life (Lebensformen)”, in which all our language games are embedded, was clearly influenced by his reading of Spengler.
Wittgenstein thought that Spengler should have spoken of the “family resemblances” of cultural phenomena instead of quasi-organic laws. This would have freed Spengler form his own misunderstanding of cultures as self-contained entities that don’t communicate with each another. And between the wars the Icelandic Nobel laureate in literature, Halldór Kiljan Laxness, even propounded a kind of Spenglerian Marxism – that is, interpreted Spengler from a leftist point of view.
Of cultural clash and collapse
Why should we still read Spengler today?
I can think of a number of issues on which Spengler’s thought could have a stimulating effect, without having to warm up again his whole “morphology of world history”. To begin with, critically: Spengler’s idea of self-contained high cultures still haunts the comparative study of civilisations. It is certainly in the background of Samuel Huntington’s theses about the “clash of civilisations”. On the other hand, sociology concerns itself too little about cultural forms of life, not least because of its fixation on the alternative of action or system. There is a deficit. Also not understanding that art and the history of art are significant dimensions of such forms of life, something to which Spengler attached great importance.
And finally there is in current civilisation research, initiated by, for example, Jared Diamond’s well-known book Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed, a fresh discussion about collapse and failure. Here there’s no way round a critical reception of Spengler’s work.
Gregor Taxacher
conducted the interview. He is a theologian and works as an editor for West German Broadcasting (WDR) and as a freelance author (focussing on, among other subjects, Christianity, Judaism and Islam). In 2010 the Wissenschaftlichen Buchgesellschaft (WBG) published his book “Apokalyptische Vernunft: Das biblische Geschichtsdenken und seine Konsequenzen” (i.e., Apocalyptic Reason: Biblical Historical Thought and Its Consequences). He lives in Cologne.Translation: Jonathan Uhlaner
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May 2011
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